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Climate at the 8th World Water Forum

Climate change impacts manifest first and more strongly through water. Changes in climate mean changes in the water cycle, in rainfall distribution patterns, in river water flows, and in the occurrence of extreme hydrological events, such as drought, flooding, storms, ice melting, etc. The expected changes affect the water availability for human activities and increase exposure to more frequent water related critical events. Its cross sector nature make water the clear centre of adaptation – which requires articulated policy, planning and action, involving governments at all levels, sectors and society.

CLIMATE - 1st Discussion Feb - Apr 2017

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The 8th World Water Forum will have Water and Climate Change as one of its central themes, focusing on climate risk assessment, water safety and protection of people and livelihoods. In order to reach that, four topics have been set to comprise the debate questions under Climate. The following topics should split into Thematic Sessions and other debate stages during the 8th World Water Forum in 2018:

  1. Managing risk and uncertainty for resilience and disaster preparedness
  2. Water and adaptation to climate change
  3. Water and climate change mitigation
  4. Climate science and water management: the communication between science and decision/policy making

Considering the above topics about Climate:      

  1. What are the major challenges under each topic that concern civil society and communities and need to be raised for debate during the 8th World Water Forum?
  2. How those challenges apply to problems in your city, community or neighbouring surroundings?

Your feedback is going to support the organisation instances of the Forum in the definition of Thematic Sessions and other opportunities for debate during the event.

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BNEIJARA's picture

BNEIJARA said:

Bonjour Tous,
Dans le cas de notre pays, la Mauritanie les rencontres avec les populations sont rares et la situation du changement climatique n’est même pas aperçue comme une menace au niveau locale. Sans la connaissance des gens et de leur milieu, nous ne pourrons pas concevoir des modèles d’appui efficace et les efforts resterons vains.

Les changements climatiques nécessitent des cadres internationaux , nationaux et locaux. Si nous consacrons au 1er echellon une décennie pour comprendre, niveau nationale une autre décennie et le local une autre décennie, il y’aura toujours un écart de 30 ans entre le thème et son appropriation par les principaux bénéficiaires qui sont au niveau local.

Sans une interaction avec les organisations de la société civile (OSC), leur soutien l’établissement de partenariats avec elles, tout cela est un préalable pour avoir des résultats à l’échelon local.
BNEIJARA

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Rogério Campos replied:

Bneijara, mercy pour votre opinion. C'est que vous pensez que le Forum peut faire face à des problèmes similaires à celui de votre pays ?

Ashwini Sathnur's picture

Ashwini Sathnur said:

1.  The major challenges that concern civil society and communitines are mentioned below:-

a)   Managing risk for resilience and disaster preparedness

Due to the climate change impact, disasters could occur due to water. Excess water could lead to floods. This could be due to extremely heavy rainfall in a region or also due to tsunamis caused by earthquakes in water. Also shortage of water could be directly leading to drought conditions. Drought leads to agricultural low productivity. This could additionally be the root causes for famine and malnutrition.

b)   Adaptation to climate change

Predicting conditions of drought or floods should be supplemented by a Disaster Management plan and a schedule for Relief operations. Government agencies/ organizations could provide a helping hand for the purpose of performing these efforts.

c)   Mitigation of climate change

Well preparedness of the community at the time of predictions of impacts of climate change leads to disaster preparedness. This abides by the core principles of Disaster Management and Disaster Risk Reduction.

d)   Mapping science and decision - making

Scientific solutions on climate change could be submitted to the decision - makers. Then an approval for implementation of these solutions would lead to the creation of policy - enablement in a bottom - up approach.

2.  Disasters could occur at any place, any region across the world. It could be at a place where person A is residing, and also when at the same time, a person B could be in the surrounding region.

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Rogério Campos replied:

Ashwini, thank you very much for valuable contribution to the debate. It is such an initiative that will guide the debates in the Forum and we will take into account your opinion in our reports. Please follow sending us texts as that one!

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Rob Hageman said:

Hi Everybody. Great to have a chance to add to this debate, thank you for the opportunity.

a) As a citizen of the Netherlands, one of the most densly populated countries below sealevel, I can tell you  that civil engineering has been a life saver for the Dutch since the 14th century. It shows risks can be managed. Both coming from the sea and from rivers that run through a country. However this requires a certain amount of knowledge, planning, preparation as well as the economic strenght to fund engineering projects. Risks to our country are calculated in terms of "failing once every thousand years". Not all low lying countries have this combination of blessings. That means that engineering elsewhere should be focused on living with the posibility of flooding and making use of clever and cheap solutions to adapt to these events. Like building your house like a boat. Smart infrastructure, roads that transform into canals, flood proof electricity, anything to keep society going. An interesting question for the debate would be: How can a not so rich country become more 'amphibious' with moderate investment, so disaster preparedness is no longer an issue? 

b) Adapting to climate change comprises two things: significantly higher water levels and more extreme weather. This will require not only the ability to engineer better ways of protecting against flooding, but think also of adapting society against storms, heavy rain erosion, forest fires, aquifer depletion, dust bowls, salinity of farm soil or desertification. Question for the debate would be: what should be tackled first to prevent  destabilising secondary consequences like starvation, war, large population movements (refugees) etc?

c) Mitigation of water and climate change is a tough one. It does not only take a village, it takes all countries to work together and transform all fossil fuel use into sustainable energy production. There simply is not enough effort right now to reduce CO2 emissions. But when the cassette tape can be made obsolete by the CD and the CD by the USB stick and the USB stick by streaming, fossil fuels too can be made obsolete. Question would be: if emission regulation is insufficient, what disruptive technologies should we be looking for to make fossil obsolete forever and what must they be able to provide to maintain prosperity?

d) To make communication between science and decision/policy making work beter, we must look at what didn't work. Warnings about climate change and the greenhouse gas have been around since the 1950s. Clearly crying "wolf" did not work. Not even in the largest and wealthiest of democracies. Science can perhaps better be used to develop alternatives, so communication should be directed on policy makers to get funding to develop disruptive green tech innovations. Question: How to switch the message from "negative warnings" to "positive outlooks"?

I hope this contributes to your debate. And I am looking forward to seeing the discussions.

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Rogério Campos replied:

Excellent text, Rob. It will help us to define the themes for debate during the Forum. The particularities of the Low Countries are fascinating.

Davi Silva Fagundes's picture

Davi Silva Fagundes said:

Dear Coordinators - Executive Secretary of the World Water Forum, Good morning!

It is with great satisfaction that we have seen the presence of Your Lordships, to present a proposal of partnership with our Students of the High School of Taguatinga, to share the discussions and follow the discussions about the 8th World Water Forum to be held in Brasilia - Federal District in 2018.

Our planning for this year is to involve our students in the discussions about the water resources problem and the impacts that climate change brings to the Federal District, as we are experiencing a water crisis, with rationing in the administrative regions of the Federal District.

This involvement of our students will lead to greater awareness of the issues surrounding water resources in the Federal District and in countries experiencing the same crisis.

We are developing the Discussion Forum on Governance, Transparency, Social Control and Water Misuse of the Federal District - Actions to reverse the current water crisis.

The Forum of discussion on Governance, Transparency, Social Control and Desaminations of the Waters of the Federal District, will be held with the Taguatinga Norte High School Students, who at the end of the work (sensitization - with reports - texts - videos - Informative lectures - visits to the springs and watercourses of the Descoberto River Basin - reports from study groups - students) that provides more than one million and eight hundred thousand users in the administrative regions, to be presented the deliberations of Discussion of the Forum of Students at the World Water Forum that will take place in Brasília - Federal District in 2018, collaborating for greater control, citizen awareness - use and reduction of waste, with the participation of problems and solutions that involve the management and use of resources In the Federal District.

In this way, there will be greater collaboration with the water resources managers of the Federal District (inspection bodies - CLDF - Basin Committee and Water Agency) to reverse the critical situation of the water crisis experienced in the Federal District.

Date / Time

Date (s) - 02/14/2017 - 12/14/2017

All day

Location Taguatinga North High School

Target Audience: Students from the Taguatinga North High School

Partnerships: Adasa - Sema - CAESB - ANA - Dema - MPDFT - ACIT - Aquarius Institute - Agenda 21 of Taguatinga - Regional Administration of Taguatinga - Cap Net Brasil - MPPU - Taguatinga - UN Water World

Technical Manager - Coordinator: Prof Davi Silva Fagundes

Contact: 055-61-98453-0308

Certain of the special attention of Your Lordships, the work being implemented in the Taguatinga North High School with our Students, we count on everyone's collaboration for success and to reverse the water crisis in the Federal District, presenting the deliberations at the end of the discussions With our students, at the World Water Forum in Brasilia.

Regards,

Teacher Davi Silva Fagundes

Taguatinga North High School

Coordinator of the Discussion Forum on Governance, Transparency, Social Control, and Misdemeanors of the Waters of the Federal District - Actions to reverse the current water crisis framework

 

Prezados Coordenadores - Secretário Executivo do Fórum Mundial da Água, Bom Dia!

É com muita satisfação que vimos a presença de Vossas Senhorias, apresentar proposta de parceria com os nossos Estudantes do Centro de Ensino Médio de Taguatinga, para compartilharmos as discussões e acompanhar as discussões sobre o 8º Fórum Mundial sobre a Água que será realizado em Brasília - Distrito Federal em 2018.

O nosso planejamento para este ano, é envolver os nossos Estudantes nas discussões sobre a problemática dos recursos hídricos e os impactos que as mudanças climáticas trazem para o Distrito Federal, vez que estamos atravessando crise hídrica, com racionamento nas regiões administrativas do Distrito Federal. 

Esse envolvimento dos nossos Estudantes, levará maior conscientização sobre as questões que envolvem os recursos hídricos no Distrito Federal e nos países que atravessam a mesma crise. 

Estamos desenvolvendo o Fórum de discussão sobre Governança, Transparência, Controle Social e descaminhos das Águas do Distrito Federal - Ações para reverter o quadro de crise hídrica​ atual. 

O Fórum de discussão sobre Governança, transparência, Controle Social e descaminhos das Águas do Distrito Federal, será realizado com os Alunos do Ensino Médio Taguatinga Norte, que ​a​ o final dos trabalhos (sensibilização - com relatórios - textos - vídeos - Conferência - palestras informativas - visitas às nascentes e cursos de água da Bacia Hidrográfica do Rio Descoberto - relatórios d​os​ grupos de estudo ​-Estudantes​) que fornece mais de um milhão e oitocentos mil usuários nas regiões administrativas​, ser apresentada as deliberações de discussão do Fórum dos Estudantes no Fórum Mundial da Água que ocorrerá em Brasília - Distrito Federal em 2018, colaborando para um maior controle, consciência cidadã - uso e redução de desperdício, com a participação dos problemas e soluções que envolvem a gestão e uso dos recursos hídricos no Distrito Federal. ​

Desta forma, haverá maior colaboração com os gestores de recursos hídricos do Distrito Federal (órgãos de fiscalização -​ CLDF -​ Comitê de Bacia e Agência de Água) para reverter a situação crítica da crise da água vivida no Distrito Federal.

Data / Hora

Data (s) - 14/02/2017 - 14/12/2017 

All Day

Localização Centro de Ensino Médio Taguatinga Norte

​Público Alvo: Estudantes do Centro de Ensino Médio Taguatinga Norte

Parcerias: Adasa - Sema - CAESB - ANA - Dema - MPDFT - ACIT - Instituto Aquário - Agenda 21 de Taguatinga - Administração Regional de Taguatinga - Cap Net Brasil - MPPU - Taguatinga - World Water Day - ONU Water

​​Responsável Técnico - Coordenador: Prof Davi Silva Fagundes

Contato: 055-61-98453-0308

Certo da atenção especial de Vossas Senhorias, ao trabalho que está sendo implantado no Centro de Ensino Médio Taguatinga Norte com os nossos Estudantes, contamos com colaboração de todos para o sucesso e reverter a crise hídrica no Distrito Federal, apresentando as deliberações ao final das discussões com os nossos estudantes, no Fórum Mundial da água em Brasília.

Atenciosamente,

Professor Davi Silva Fagundes

Centro de Ensino Médio Taguatinga Norte

Coordenador do Fórum de discussão​ sobre Governança, Transparência, Controle Social e descaminhos das Águas do Distrito Federal - Ações para reverter o quadro de crise hídrica​ atual

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Rogério Campos replied:

Prezado prof. Davi Fagundes. A sua iniciativa é excelente ao envolver alunos do ensino médio nas discussões. Por gentileza, informe aqui os resultados das discussões do encontro a fim de que nos ajudem a definir temas de debates durante a realização do Fórum.

Dear Prof. David Fagundes. Your initiative is excellent engaging high school students in the discussions. Please report here the results of the discussions in order to help to set the debate themes during the Forum.

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Marta Paris said:

I think we should consider that there are climate change impacts in grondwater as well.  The recharge rate is modified with the rain, evaporation (and evapotranspiration) conditions and with overland flow.  This aspect should be incorporate in the introduction of this thematic forum.  Take into account that groundwater is supply source for millons people, not only for livehood but economical and social development and ecosystems manteinance.  Groundwater is an invisible resource that is affected by climate change in quantity and its quality.

The lack of consideration of this integrity of hydrological cycle has done that for decades the manage of water be concentrate only in engineering projects to drain water as soon as possible without consider the impact of this action in the soil, groundwater and of course the lowland of the basin.  To achieve a change, it is neccesary that the develop of proffesionals and technicals includes this holistic vision.  And of course it is neccesary to do a socializacion that what means water management to reach water security.  These strategies are key to clarify the rols of civil society, communities and goverment.

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Daene McKinney replied:

Dear Marta, Groundwater is definitely a key component of the hydrologic cycle and water management.  The imacts of climate change on groundwater are extensive and aquifer levels have been depleted in many areas due to this which, as you point out, also causes problems of water quality. It will be good if we can make linkages between the climate change aspects of groundwater as well as to the other Themes.

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Bruno Pagnoccheschi said:

Regarding the topic "d) Climate science and water management: the communication between science and decision / policy making", I would like to point out the following issue: the XVI World Water Congress organized by IWRA, to be held in Cancún by the end of May, has as its general theme "Bridging Science and Policy" and will feature a High Level Panel on Water and Climate. In this context, what should be done so that the discussion of this important topic has a connection and complementarity between the two events?

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Daene McKinney replied:

Dear Bruno, We can lookinto how to make this linkage between the two events.  Thank you for bringing this to our attention.

Marcio Nobrega's picture

Marcio Nobrega said:

Certainly a great opportunity to discuss such matters. So let me throw my two coins: Concerning risk management related to climate change, it is my sure believe that the most tricking point is communicating the risk. As on the field of climate change  and risk analysis  Science far more than one concept is implied, what would be the sure balance between Science and communication? To what extent are they dissimilar?

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Rogério Campos replied:

Excellent point, Márcio. "Communicating the risk", I suppose, is on environmental education, a matter of concern especially in Brazil. It encloses water reuse, also. Let us discuss this here and during the Forum. Thank you for your participation.

Inaiê Santos's picture

Inaiê Santos said:

Um conceito que vem ganhando relevância crescente no debate político internacional é o "Water-Energy-Food nexus". O conceito busca trazer luz às conexões entre esses três setores que são comumente tratados de forma isolada na formulação de políticas. Assim como o nexo, as mudanças climáticas têm o potencial de integrar políticas, dado seu caráter transversal.

Entretanto, é comum afirmarem que a discussão sobre integração não deve se limitar ao campo das políticas, devendo envolver também organizações da sociedade civil, comunidades, entre outros atores. Portanto, acredito que um primeiro desafio para que isso ocorra é delinear formas de comunicar efetivamente a complexidade subjacente aos impactos climáticos, diretos e indiretos, à sociedade em geral. O Fórum poderia dar publicidade a casos que buscam tratar esse desafio ao redor do mundo.

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Fernanda Maschietto replied:

Concordo com a Inaiê. Não tem como falar sobre água e mudança do clima sem falar de energia e agricultura, dois setores bastante dependentes de recursos hídricos, e que impactam a disponibilidade de água para outros fins. Em um cenário de escassez de água, os conflitos tendem a aumentar.

É preciso trazer a mesa também as indústrias e grandes empresas para dialogar sobre estes temas e nos prepararmos para a necessidade já urgente de se adaptar a escassez de água.

Como gerir o recurso para o uso de todos? Quais práticas permitem reduzir o uso da água? Estas perguntas não são novidade e há muitas respostas em regiões como o semi-árido brasileiro, por exemplo, e outros lugares pelo mundo.

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Marcio Nobrega replied:

Fernanda,

interessante sua observação da necessidade de integração das políticas setoriais de energia e agricultura no gerenciamento de recurso hídricos, sobretudo porque a irrigação coloca estas duas tecnologias, em um país intensamente dependente de hidreletricidade, como o Brasil, em ocasional conflito em relaão às suas funções objetivo de maximização econômica, tendo ambas a disponibilidade hídrica como restrição.

Aler Donadío's picture

Aler Donadío said:

1 tengo mucho interés en métodos de conservación de nacientes de agua 

2 Para evitar efectos posteriores de contaminación

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Rogério Campos replied:

Gracias por su participación, Aler. Vamos a esperar para ver si hay mas alguien interesado en este tema. Conservación de nacientes es sin duda un tópico importante considerando la protección de recursos hídricos.

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Alexandre Gross said:

Hello everyone! welcome to the 8th World Water Forum Climate online consultation!

We are excited to start the discussions, collect different points of view, and improve the process towards a more participatory forum!

Please feel free to explore the platform! We are looking forward to hearing what you have say!

Arturo E. Martínez's picture

Arturo E. Martínez said:

Welcome everyone.

Let us take this opportunity to generate proposals and share experiences towards the World Water Forum

We look forward to your participation.

Rogério Campos's picture

Rogério Campos said:

Welcome, folks from around World! We are expecting your contributions for the thematic group. We moderators will be with you during all the process and any help, please contact one of us. Daene McKinney and a soon chosen another member of the team will moderate the first round of discussions.

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Daene McKinney said:

Welcome to the 8th World Water Forum Climate Online Consultation!

Your contributions are welcome and very important for the success of the Forum. 

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